Oh wow, you liked Evo too? I remember so many people hating Evo when it came out, such a good show. (Also Teen Jean, and no Logan unrequited love was so much better)
duuuude yes!! Man this was such an awesome show—and yeah, pretty much the only adaptation thus far I’ve been able to tolerate Jean in. (Still can’t with scott, but seriously fuck that guy.) I think I’m going to spam watch this after I finish Young Justice, b/c i still haven’t seen the last season
I LOVE EVO SO MUCH. Fun fact: my first RP account was Lance Alvers/Avalanche. I still love the Brotherhood to bits.
Oh man, Lance <3 The brotherhood were all so adorkable it physically hurt. Though I’ll admit to having been a Nightcrawler and Rogue fangirl at heart (predictable I know, i know)
Ugh I have it all on DVD (except season 4 which was never released on DVD sob) and now I want to re-watch it all. But then I’ll get lots of feelings about it and this show has zero fandom anymore.
we exist. we just lurk in the shadows. BUT NO SERIOUSLY TALK TO ME ABOUT EVO AND THE SIBLING FEELS POTENTIAL BETWEEN NIGHTCRAWLER AND ROGUE AND HOW WELL THEY HANDLED THE ACOLYTES AND EVERYTHING AND GAMBIT OH BLESSED BLESSED GAMBIT TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS I AM 10000000000000% A FAN OF X-MEN EVOLUTION
GOD I WAS OBSESSED WITH THIS SHOW I WROTE ESSAYS ABOUT HOW XAVIER WAS THE REAL VILLAIN I MEAN FUCKING LOOK AT THE EPISODE WHERE KITTY AND LANCE ARE RECRUITED
WHY THE FUCK DID HE LEAVE LANCE BEHIND
BEFORE HE EVEN MET THE KID HE REJECTED HIM, A HOMELESS ORPHAN, FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON
LOOK AT THE TESTS HE PUT TOAD THROUGH TO PROVE HE WAS “WORTHY” OF JOINING THE XMEN THAT LITERALLY NO OTHER KID WAS PUT THROUGH
XAVIER IS JUST OUT TO RECRUIT PLIABLE YOUTHS WHO AREN’T TOO STRONG TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES OR REBEL AGAINST HIS QUIET PLANS TO MANIPULATE THEM INTO FIGHTING IN HIS WAR FOR HIM BY CREATING A “SAFE SPACE” WHEN THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE NO OTHER OPTIONS
MANUFACTURING LOYALTY FROM DESPERATE CHILDREN
OH MAN OH MAN EXACTLY
I HAD SO MANY FEELINGS ABOUT THAT EPISODE LIKE THE WHOLE TIME I WAS LIKE ‘NOW WAIT A MINUTE XAVIER WHAT ARE YOU DOING WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING HOLD ON NO REALLY WHAT’
AND like okay manipulating that bitterness toward xavier’s rejection was maaaaaybe not okay *coughcoughMYSTIQUE* BUT LET’S BE REAL SHE WAS STILL AN EFFECTIVE ORGANIZER LIKE ‘HEY ARE U PISSED OFF AT HOW THINGS ARE GOING DO YOU WANT THINGS TO BE BETTER FOR U OKAY THEN HOW ABOUT U GET PISSED THE FUCK OFF GET MAD DON’T CHANGE BUT GET MAD AND CHANGE IT.
Honestly the only reason I’d have stuck with Xavier’s side vs. Magneto and Mystique’s side is cos there were more cute people on Xavier’s side than Magneto’s
this is where I drag in my Incredibly Awkward and Inconvenient crushes on Rogue, Kitty, and Spike shhhhh
but yeah no I think I spent a lot of time watching that show and justifying the actions of the antagonists vs the protags because like
Scott’s a dick. Is, was, always will be, no changing that. I didn’t really like Wolverine all that much (aaaaaand that still hasn’t changed. like at all) and there were a few others where I was like “man so self-absorbed and obnoxious and REALLY PROFESSOR IS THAT THE BEST WAY TO DO THINGS IS IT REALLY???? IS IT?????”
mAN I feel like I need to rewatch this now because I haven’t seen it since it originally aired really, though I rewatched it a thousand times then I am a WAY different person than I was in my late teens/early twenties and I wonder if I’d have a different perspective now
But seriously, Magneto’s side all the way. I mean both Xavier and Magneto were manipulative pricks who were using children to fight wars for them, but at least Magneto was upfront about it. Xavier made you feel like this was your home and your family and that if you really loved your family you’d defend it.
I honestly didn’t like many of the X-Men on the team which helps rofl BUTTT I was in love with the Brotherhood so much. In fact at one point after the show ended the artist for the series released a sketch book for sale and he did me a doodle on the inside and
god did I mention I slashshipped Lance and Pietro too fucking hard he did a thing for me HE DOODLED MY TWO FAVS JUST CHILLING
I rewatched the series at some point and I just got like WAVES OF NOSTALGIA SO HARD BUT YES LANCE AND PIETRO WHAT A GOOD SHIP OuO
i had so many het ships from Evo when I first watched it and I think I still cling to them h a r d tbh because these were my wee bab shipper years but THAT ART HOLY BEANS THAT IS AMAZING ART BLESS.
also can we discuss surly goth teen Rogue? because she was prooobably my absolute favorite as far as x-dorks went. Like, Rogue and Kurt were super important to me, but also Colossus and Gambit and OH LORD PIETRO WAS SUCH A LOSER LIKE REALLY A HUGE NERD LOSER. SO IMPORTANT BUT SUCH A NERD.
I LOVED SURLY GOTH ROGUE even though at first I hated her because I was such a ~comic purist~ but she and her story arc totally grew on me, like seriously the characters on this show were so fucking complex for what it was. l AM A HUGE COLOSSUS FAN AND I WAS SO HAPPY TO SEE HIM IN THE SHOW HE NEEDED MORE EPISODES
I was a total slashhard when it came out so most of my ships werent straight but I def had some, I always liked Kurt/Kitty because I’m strange I guess and I thought it was just fucking adorable.
OH man Pietro was such a shit but jesus christ given his massive daddy issues can you blame that fucking kid. He made such a long series of shitty life choices but you can see them coming from this place of desperation, wanting to be a good son and wanting to be loved and accepted and feeling like the only way he could do this was by BETRAYING LITERALLY HIS ONLY FRIENDS BY ABANDONING THEM TO JOIN THE ACOLYTES i wrote a lot of fic back in the day and that was one of my fav areas to write from because there just must have been so much shit going on in that house around the time Magneto came back and the Acolytes were formed. Like SURPRISE Pietro your buddy is back but whoops he’s playing for this other team now and is suddenly the boss, then Magneto DIES and what the shit are they even left with
Holy mother how did i miss this MAD AWESOME CONVERSATION?! (oh yeah, was playing Watch Dogs *cough*)
EVO TOTALLY RUINED ME FOR THE REST OF THE XMEN VERSE BECAUSE OF THEIR MAGNETO/MYSTIQUE, OK. THANKS TO THIS SHOW I GREW UP 100% ON THEIR SIDE OF IT CAUSE, LIKE, YEAH THEIR METHODS WERE SOMETIMES TOO EXTREME BUT I COULD SEE THEIR POINT AND I MAY HAVE IDENTIFIED WITH THE KIDS ON THEIR TEAMS A LITTLE MORE. ALSO XAVIER IS A DICK, AND AT LEAST MAGNETO (as said) WAS UPFRONT ABOUT HIS DICKISHNESS.
BUT XAVIER WAS OVER THERE DUMBLEDORING EVERY KID AT THAT PLACE. HERE, LET ME GIVE YOU A SAFE, RIDICULOUSLY UPSCALE PLACE TO LIVE BUT YOU ONLY HAVE TO RISK YOUR LIVES TO DEFEND IT. OH AND DEFEND THE PEOPLE WHO ABUSE YOU, TOO.
like straight up I am still not down with this idea that mutants who react violently when presented with violence are somehow automatically bad and evil and beyond redemption (as xavier’s treatment of lance and toad implies), rather than just people abused beyond diplomacy. but i guess if you don’t drink the koolaid you’re not worth the effort.
POINT IS I’ve never been comfortable with every other version of magneto I’ve seen—like in the newest movies where he’s just reaching cartoonish levels of Evil Without Cause. Maybe im misremembering but I always felt (thanks to Evo) that he did actually have a particular set of moral lines he wouldn’t cross, most of those related to other mutants, and the movies just continually blast through them in order to make him into the Big Bad. guh.
In other news, I seem to be completely incapable of NOT curing the genophage. Going into ME3 I was like…900% sure Triby wasn’t going to do it, and would have to kill wrex (which was horrible, given he is her bro to end all bros), but now she’s like “I may not trust ALL the Krogan, but I trust Wrex and I made him a promise, dammit.”
not a damn clue what’s going to happen to the Geth, though, since Legion’s already dead. And her Renagon ass was just using him for the machine he was, anyway. >.>
I’m also not comfortable saying that humanity is being oppressed by the Council, unless you’re also saying that the quarians, hanar, drell, elcor, and volus are also being oppressed by not having a council seat
humanity is brand fuckin’ new and is acting like they’re hot shit in a galaxy that is so much bigger than they ever, ever imagined, and they’re not doing a damn thing to try and adjust
I wouldn’t trust humans either tbh
I prolly don’t even want to know what conversation is happening,given this post, but can I just say a mighty “Hear hear!”
The way that humanity shoves it’s way into galactic affairs without so much as a “Howdy neighbor” has always read as more than a little gross to me.
I got Trilby through Horizon last night and man WHERE IS MY OPTION TO TELL KAIDAN TO FUCK OFF. LIKE SERIOUSLY.
I understand his side of it, but I will NEVER understand why even the dialogue wheel option that says “i was dead” doesn’t actually have her say those words. Like seriously dude, fuck you sideways, she knows you been through some shit since she passed—and so has she! I think the memory of literally dying is maybe on-par with learning to date again, OK? Just a bit. < /sarcasm >
AND THAT ISN’T EVEN TOUCHING THE ”YOU BETRAYED ME” PART. OH GOD. WHAT IN THE EFFING FUCK. I KNOW HE FEELS THAT WAY BUT WHY THE BALLS CAN SHE NOT SAY ANYTHING REMOTELY ANGRY BACK AT HIM FOR THAT SHIT. THIS IS SO NOT OK.
» You want to know the real reason people hate the Virmire Survivors, Miranda, and Javik?
It has nothing to do with being “racist/xenophobic.” Wrex, Garrus and Tali all show signs of being prejudiced against one or more groups of people.
It has nothing to do with being “whiny,” most characters show emotional vulnerability at least at some point in their character arc. Garrus complains about C-Sec, Jack against Cerberus, etc.
It has nothing to do with being a “bitch” or an “asshole.” The krogan are one of the fandom’s favorite species and they’re nothing but assholes with the exception of Bakara. Grunt is one of the most beloved characters and he’s a borderline psychopath in ME2, not to mention has racist tendencies himself.
The reason why these characters are hated and misunderstood has nothing to do with being racist, nothing to do with being a jerk, nothing to do with being whiny.
You know what they all have in common?
They question Shepard.
Ding ding! Checkmate.
Pretty accurate to a lot of the discourse.
Though I feel the need to butt in that the reason I didn’t care for Kaidan in the first place is that he kind of came off as “dude whose sole purpose is to state the obvious as much as possible.”
But somehow getting to play the first game solved those issues. IDEK how that functions, but it did. Or maybe he just grew on me.
Seriously though, when I finally got to meet Ash I was (wonderfully) surprised by how amazing she is, and indeed tat she actually isn’t “space racist” (I can’t even begin on how much I hate this term) like the majority of the fandom keeps saying. Fuck all y’all, Ash is top shelf.
So the Omega DLC (which I finally just played through last night with Maki) gave me a ton of Shakarian feels I wasn’t expecting in the least…
(i guess feel free to snip my commentary if you like, but this turian right here…)
here’s the thing i love about the scars joke, and how much garrus grows between the two games when it comes to his relationship with shepard…it’s not just a simple thing to reassure himself that shepard might still care for him. i mean it IS that, and it’s superbly cute and well done on all fronts (not the least of which is Keener’s amazing delivery).
hey, there’s this guy you wanted, once upon a time in an impossible mission far far away. do i still look like that guy to you, now that the smoke has cleared?
like, the way it goes is that garrus doesn’t know this, this romance, this crazy love (and yes i figure he nails that part pretty quickly), is even a possibility until shepard sort of bulldozes her way into his blind spot. and i think, even more than shepard, garrus is able to see their battlefield for what it truly is this time. endgame. full stop.
and he knows who he is and what he wants out of what’s sure to be the short remainder of his life. trouble is…he’s NOT the guy standing in front of the aquarium any more. he’s just a whole damn lot MORE now. so is shepard, even in their brief time apart.
so it’s a legitimate concern right here, in the stupid main battery with a big gun that’s maybe more metaphor than he’d like to admit…how you’re never done working on a thing you care about. when lives are at stake. when it’s yours tangled with someone else’s.
garrus isn’t sure if scars, squirmy little metaphors in their own right, are what drove them together…but he knows they’re due for more. bigger and badder. and that’s fine. he wouldn’t be the soldier we love without that grit. it’d just be a helluva lot better with shepard to land hard against at the end of the line.
and this is him asking (a skill that’s as hard won as any, in romance or in life) as plainly as a bad turian knows how : live or die, bruised and broken, i’m all in…are you with me?
^^^ Everything that is this A++++ commentary up here.
» So I’m almost done with Awakening…
(No, I still hadn’t played it, I wanted to complete my ‘canon’ game first…and then decided fuck that, i just wanna see and i’m tired of dodging spoilers. /cough/)
I have to say that, aside from a few great things (sigrun and velanna in general) I’m not terribly impressed. The Mother is creepy as balls, but I’m only able to handle her entire existence if I force myself to Not Think About It. Which is pretty much the only way I can handle any and all mentions of Broodmothers because a;slkdjf;aijwe;lkwasdnfsldkjfa;ldskjfsdij;fsd DO NOT WANT, but The Mother really takes the cake.
And unless my copy is glitching the hell out, I don’t particularly appreciate the way that half the dialogue seems to be written for a human warden and only a human warden especially when it comes to dealing with the Dalish. So far, Velanna is the only Dalish who has at all acknowledged that she’s dealing with a Dalish warden. But even when we ran into what remained of her old clan, their entire dialogue tree treated the Warden like she’s a shem’len, short of actually calling them one. Same goes for all of Velanna’s dialogue outside of the wending woods.
Velanna, I love you darling, but you do not need to explain the way the Dalish works to someone with the most complicated, obvious vallaslin etched onto their face. I think they know, dear.
And being attacked for absolutely no reason by “elven warriors”? jdsadfljkdsflk what the hell, y’all? really?
THE GUARDS WERE THE BEST
SDAF;LJKSD I HAVE SO MANY FEELS YOU GUISE.
and no one to discuss them with. D: